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I've updated the song. This is the full song excluding the bass guitar and the lead guitar. Thanks for all the feedback, I've tried to follow it as much as possible.

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Had absolutely no idea what category it should go under.

Anyway, this is a song I'm eager to share so far. It's far from done, but I just wanted to show you guys how much I've done, and hopefully get some feedback. It's a very progressive rock song (with a bit of techno), no vocals. The songs total length should reach about 3-4 minutes long when I'm done.

The song is titled "Video" and a video will be posted on my Youtube probably at the end of the week (if not next week).

Note, please keep your speaker volumes down if you dont want a surprise!

Also to pause the song, click on the stage. Clicking again will resume, and clicking once it's finished will replay.
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Julianrocks Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2009
What is your recording setup?
BTW, I saw a couple of your YouTube vids and some some of your sweeping. How long have you been playing?
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2009
- Ibanez RG350EX customised
- RME HDSP Hammerfall PCI sound card
- Guitar Rig 3 Session
- KRK Rokit 8 speakers

I've been playing since I was 4 years old... about 13 years (although I only started to take it seriously when I was about 9 or 10)
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Julianrocks Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2009
Nice, Paul started playing at 5, then seriously at nine, and at 18 years old he taught a GIT and formed Racer X. Did you progress slow or fast? PG was really slow...
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2009
Honestly I think I've progressed a bit slow... I don't have the genetics for playing guitar like some people do :P
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Julianrocks Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2009
Are you self taught? I almost am, last year at school I took a guitar class, all we did was learn name of the notes and how to read music. I pretty much taught myself the rest, with the help of the internets.
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2009
Nah I'm not, I took lessons for quite a while. But then again a lot of the stuff I did teach myself.

So you play guitar? How long?
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Julianrocks Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2009
Yeah, I play, I've picked it up really fast, I've been playing for only a year. I've also got some Paul Gilbert DVDs and I watched a lot of his instruction videos on youtube, he really is a good teacher.
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2009
Cool, well stick to it ;) I've never actually followed an instructional video before, since they pretty much all teach the same things (fast alternate picking and a bunch of patterns).
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ablackdeath Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009
Nice work Bennyboy =P
You better get the rest of that up quick smart or I'll set a pack of wild Bronny's and Seb's onto you!
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009
Thanks Cass :D

Why would you release such evil upon me?
:fear:
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ablackdeath Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2009
It's a nice incentive to get off your arse and do more recording!
=P Haha
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EnzuDes1gn Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Professional Interface Designer
have to say i ma very impressed Ben, you sound great, the drums could be better, but yea it needs some bass for better support, the riffs and roller coaster chords ( my name for up down lol ) work good in this, very old school style sound to it, when i listened it remind me of some good ol " JOE SATRIANI " surfing with the alien style
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009
Thanks mate :D The drums could definitely be better, they are just at the moment preset loops that I dragged in; I hope to get a friend of mine that plays drums to make some stuff up for me. Wow it reminds you of Joe Satriani.. the ultimate compliment :P Thanks man~
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EnzuDes1gn Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Professional Interface Designer
:) yea it fully does, and I said that way before i read your inspirations ;)
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murtada-king Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Professional Photographer
Awesome! :D Just great! Keep it up and keep us informed! Would love to hear vocals with this too! It fits well!
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009
Thanks man! I'll definitely be posting updates soon :D As for vocals... if it's requested enough I'll see what I can do ;)
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bardo Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Professional Artist
Very interesting! Now you should think a very supportive bass line, paying attention not to double the rythmic guitar, and maybe some variations on the drums. I really like the electronic part! You should go even further, and try to integrate it more tightly with the "rock" section. How does it sound with a powerchord guitar underside it?

By the way, are you sure about the "no vocals" part? They could fit very well on the riff before the keyboard entrance. Another option is attempting a bass solo on that part, keeping guitars as an accompaniment. I'm not thinking about virtuosities, just a simple melodic line that builds on the guitars support...
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009
Wow first of all thanks for the large response :) Really appreciate you took the time to give me some detailed feedback! (Hope you don't mind reading my large response too :P)

Yeah at the moment I am missing bass, since I actually do not have a bass guitar. I've been having to make do by borrowing bass' from anyone, or if I can't I just have to publish the song without bass. But, if I can get one (I'm hoping to actually go and buy one soon), I'll definitely get in a supportive bassline as per request :D

Thanks for complimenting the little techno remix part. Actually the first time I've tried to mix together some MIDI sounds like that. I did try it with the power chords but in my opinion it just sounded less of a song and more of a scramble of notes - in other words I think it just made it a bit too much. But the second chorus with the techno beforehand will be the outro to my song, so I want to make the last chorus a bit different, and more "epic" for lack of a better term :P, which was why I wanted a softer part before leading into it to give it more of an impact.

As for no vocals, the main reason for not having them is that I can't sing (and don't know anyone who would do it for me). Second is, I don't have the right equipment to record vocals. Maybe in time I'll start making some songs with lyrics.

By the way in case you were wondering, the whole part in the middle with just power chords will have a solo over the top - just gotta write it.

Thanks again :D
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bardo Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Professional Artist
My favorite art genre is music, I just love it above everything else, so the long comment came out naturally, especially because this is a work in progress :D In fact it's great to see someone that does appreciate critics and strives to do his best.

About not having a bass, this sucks... and you're a bit too far to get you one =/ MIDI basses suck really bad, they have a totally empty sound, so I don't recommend them. Did you try with a synth software like puredata? It's not really easy to use (au contraire, it takes a lot of work to understand it), but for a predefined bass line it shouldn't be too hard. Beware, though, it won't likely sound like a real bass; anyway it's good if you like synth sounds (see for example the bass synth Muse use everywhere).

For a reference on how electronica and distorted guitars can work well together you could check out some work by Godkiller (only the Deliverance album, not quite "happy" music :)), Saltatio Mortis (very contaminated by dance music), Wumpscut (EBM, mostly hard electronica with some guitars), Alec Empire (digital hardcore, a bit heavy) or ...And Oceans (black metal and techno). These are just some examples, the field is broad and depends a lot on what you like :D

Oh, and anyway, if you ever need a singer you can ask, I am ;)
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009
In my older songs I did resort to MIDI bass and I know exactly what you mean. I've never heard of puredata but I'm organising this weekend to go and pick up a bass guitar. It's been long enough :)

Thanks for the list of bands, I looked through most of them, but I think I'll just stick with how I've done it, as I said I wanted a build up to the chorus and I think it works well without the chords.

Anyway, thanks so much for your help, if I need a singer you'll be the first on my list :D
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miscbeep Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd totally listen to it, when it's done. Sounds pretty good, good job man !
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MediaDesign Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009
Thanks mate, will go up on my Youtube soon :D
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miscbeep Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice, inform me ;)
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